in crucial areas like education, technology, science, and energy." what's on the table for cuts? no social security, no medicare, the major drivers of benefits, but are the drivers of debt and deficit. what's on the table for spending cuts? >> guest: okay. there's a lot of questions there. >> host: right. >> guest: first of all, you know, the major drivers of the current deficits are two things. tax cuts for the wealthy and wars in iraq and afghanistan. this has been well documented by economists. let's not pretend like grandmother is responsible for the deficits. she's not. i promise you. yeah, you know, what would define a spending cut, again, cutting the amount of money that would pay for prescription drugs. getting the same drugs for $130 billion cheaper by untying medicare and medicaid's hands and lay low them to negotiation. that's a cut to save money, impacting the big guy, not the little guy. you know, if we sub subsidize ie name of family farmers, agriculture corporations. we, warn in the campaign talk about a balanced, and the rich on the revenue side, and increase the revenue si